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Recent wisdom, gossip and conjecture:
All-Century Cheat Sheet: Infield
Last time, with some help from a reader, I outlined just how awry this All-Century Team voting is getting. After our look at the All-Century process and a quick rundown of the catcher position last time, here's a run through the infield, where even more stupidity awaits.
Let's begin with first base. For information on the stats I'm using here, see the above article.
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|
|
Production |
Rank |
Player Rating |
Rank |
| Lou Gehrig | 1923-39 | 182 | 3 | 65.7 | 16 |
| Jimmie Foxx | 1925-45 | 161 | 11 | 54.0 | 20 |
| Hank Greenberg | 1930-47 | 157 | 12 | 30.0 | 86 |
| Mark McGwire | 1986-Present | 157 | 14 | 30.5 | 82 |
| Willie McCovey | 1959-80 | 148 | 32 | 36.5 | 55 |
| Harmon Killebrew | 1954-75 | 142 | 46 | 26.4 | 115 |
| Eddie Murray | 1977-97 | 130 | 110 | 35.0 | 66 |
| Bill Terry | 1923-36 | 137 | 72 | 24.9 | 127 |
| George Sisler | 1915-30 | 124 | 150 | 22.7 | 146 |
| Buck Leonard | 1934-48 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
One local columnist here in Seattle noted that Lou Gehrig was one of the few no-brainers on the ballot, and I'd have to agree. After all, if you are a newspaper columnist and don't actually have much of a brain to use, these no-brainers come in real handy. Gehrig ranks among the best players of all time by any measure, and he tops this list by a fair margin. Next up is Jimmie Foxx, who could have been even better if he hadn't just fizzled out in his mid-30s.
After that, we get a bunch of guys who can produce at a prodigious rate; Greenberg and McGwire particularly. None of them, however, kept it up for long enough to accumulate the kind of career value (TPR) that Gehrig and Foxx did. McGwire may, but he hasn't achieved it quite yet.Another four seasons like the last two, and he'll be up there with Gehrig.
The inclusion of Terry and Sisler is puzzling. Decent producers, but hardly top-notch. As with the catching position, we have a top-rank Negro League contender, and as he and Josh Gibson were, for the most part, a tandem like Ruth and Gehrig, I'm choosing him to go along with Gibson on my team.
So, for first base, we have Gehrig and Leonard, with honorable mentions to Foxx, Greenberg and McGwire. Predictably, the fans are voting in Gehrig in a landslide, with McGwire a comfortable second over Foxx. Unfortunately, they're also asking, "Buck who?"
On so to second base.
| SECOND BASE |
|
Production |
Rank |
Player Rating |
Rank |
| Rogers Hornsby | 1915-37 | 176 | 4 | 81.1 | 9 |
| Napoleon Lajoie | 1896-1916 | 150 | 26 | 94.2 | 2 |
| Eddie Collins | 1906-30 | 142 | 44 | 69.8 | 14 |
| Joe Morgan | 1963-84 | 133 | 95 | 56.3 | 19 |
| Charlie Gehringer | 1924-42 | 123 | 150 | 44.4 | 29 |
| Jackie Robinson | 1947-56 | 131 | 100 | 31.8 | 75 |
| Rod Carew | 1967-85 | 131 | 100 | 31.7 | 76 |
| Frankie Frisch | 1919-37 | 110 | 500 | 39.0 | 49 |
Here's where some serious late-20th-century bias has come into play. From the table it's easy to see that three early century players lap the field entirely. Hornsby, Lajoie and Collins were nothing short of superstars. It's a credit to Joe Morgan that he compares so well with those guys, a respectable fourth behind them.
Gehringer, Robinson and Carew are definitely a notch below that, while Frankie Frisch is pretty much a longevity candidate -- barely above average for a long time. The same could be said of his Veterans Committee work for the Hall of Fame. It takes mediocrity to recognize it, I guess.
Jackie Robinson, of course, has a huge intangible going for him, and so the voting shows. I can't begrudge the fans this one at all. He leads the second base vote comfortably, while Hornsby is just managing to hold off Morgan. We inexplicably have Rod Carew next -- an obvious bias to recent name recognition. The voters do know mediocrity when they see it though, keeping Frisch firmly in last place.
Personally, put me down for Hornsby and Robinson, just like the fans.
Third base is the shortest of the ballots, and an odd one. For whatever reason, the ballot makers chose to leave off Wade Boggs, who hasn't exactly set the world on fire the last few years, but has had a very solid career -- marginally better than George Brett, as you can see from the table.
| THIRD BASE |
|
Production |
Rank |
Player Rating |
Rank |
| Mike Schmidt | 1972-89 | 147 | 35 | 78.4 | 10 |
| Eddie Mathews | 1952-68 | 145 | 38 | 51.6 | 22 |
| Wade Boggs ** | 1982-Present | 134 | 86 | 44.6 | 27 |
| George Brett | 1973-93 | 135 | 78 | 39.0 | 47 |
| Paul Molitor | 1978-98 | 127 | 150 | 35.3 | 64 |
| Pie Traynor | 1920-37 | 107 | 1000 | 20.7 | 169 |
| Brooks Robinson | 1955-77 | 105 | 1000 | 19.8 | 181 |
Far ahead of the pack, though, is Mike Schmidt, the second-most famous man ever to be booed in Philadelphia. (The first, of course, is Santa Claus.) Schmidt's numbers are remarkable. Not far behind, and well ahead of the rest, is Eddie Mathews. Unfortunately, the world doesn't seem to remember Eddie very well, as he's languishing in fourth place behind Schmidt, Brett and the light-hitting Brooks Robinson.
As the table shows, Robinson and Traynor were barely better-than-league-average as hitters, and Brooks got a good chunk of his career value from the glove. Note that TPR includes fielding, so there is no hidden "gold glove" bonus to be added to these numbers. In fact, many analysts believe the fielding value part of TPR to be vastly inflated.
It's hard for me to think of Paul Molitor as a third baseman, but as there wasn't a ballot category for "weak hitting DH", I guess they needed to put him somewhere.
My votes go to Schmidt and Mathews, while those baby boomer fans who remember all those Brooks Robinson highlight plays are making him a close second behind Mike.
Finally, we get to shortstop. Once again, we have a very strong turn-of-the-century candidate in Honus Wagner, who is simply the best shortstop there ever was. Even A-Rod, Nomar and Derek won't have the chance to surpass him until well into the next century. Here's a shortstop who is 27th on the all time Production list and eighth in career value. The seven guys ahead of him are Ruth, Lajoie, Mays, Cobb, Aaron, Tris Speaker and Ted Williams. This guy flat out should be one of the choices.
| SHORTSTOP | Played | Adjusted Production |
AP Rank |
Total
Player Rating |
TPR Rank |
| Honus Wagner | 1897-1917 | 150 | 27 | 81.2 | 8 |
| Arky Vaughan ** | 1932-48 | 136 | 76 | 39.2 | 46 |
| Lou Boudreau ** | 1938-52 | 121 | 325 | 41.3 | 38 |
| Robin Yount | 1974-93 | 115 | 450 | 43.1 | 33 |
| Joe Cronin | 1926-45 | 119 | 350 | 39.4 | 45 |
| Cal Ripken Jr. | 1981-Present | 117 | 400 | 39.9 | 44 |
| Luke Appling | 1930-50 | 113 | 500 | 40.7 | 41 |
| Ernie Banks | 1953-71 | 122 | 300 | 25.9 | 120 |
| Ozzie Smith | 1978-96 | 88 | 2000 | 43.0 | 34 |
| Luis Aparicio | 1956-73 | 82 | 2000 | 12.4 | 250 |
After that, I was curious trying to figure out how come Arky Vaughan got left off the list in favor of Luis Aparicio. Even Lou Boudreau slots in ahead of everyone else. After that, the remainder of the candidates are pretty humdrum, offensively at least. Two of the candidates only spent half their careers playing short: Banks and Yount. Banks, the lovable "Mr. Cub," is one of the most overrated players on the ballot.
It's interesting to see just how bad offensively Ozzie Smith was - 12% below average for his career. Almost all of his TPR comes from the aforementioned dubious fielding runs. No doubt he was brilliant defensively, but this ballot is definitely an "I saw Ozzie play so I'm voting for him" kind of deal.
The voting is actually pretty tight, with Ripken leading and Banks and Smith in a tight scrap for second place. Wagner hangs in a close fourth, but not likely to break the top two (unless you vote now!)
My votes go to Wagner and Ripken -- the latter not so much for on-field prowess, but rather for his contribution to the revitalizing of baseball after the strike, especially as none of the other candidates after Wagner show anything special.
So there's the infield rundown. Next week: Pitchers and outfielders.
If you haven't already, you can vote online at: http://www.majorleaguebaseball.com/u/baseball/mlbcom/allcentury/ac_info.htm
Online voting ends September 14th
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